Burke & James 5x7 Project Cam - Progress...

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Burke & James 5x7 Project Cam - Progress...

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Starting this thread so I can dump everything in one spot...

I'm still trying to positively ID this camera. Looks about 90% like a B&J Watson Portrait view camera, but those 1. Have front swings (mine does not) and 2. Does NOT have a metal brace on the front standard (mine DOES). Mine has the B&J stamp on the front brace for the shift. I can't find anything online that has any more definitive info on the portrait version of this camera, so I don't know if this is some weird variant or a different camera altogether. Searching for a B&J expert...

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Have spent the last few days trimming, fitting, and repairing the donor back. Which, apparently, is an Agfa/ANSCO back. The more I scraped and planed, the more issues came up. Ultimately decided the best thing to do would excise as much as necessary and repair and patch. Ended up cutting out and gluing in six pieces. The back is mahogany; the patches are cherry. I have a block of mahogany somewhere in the garage, but had appropriately-sized pieces of cherry nearby, it's stable enough, and the patches weren't going to be invisible regardless.

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The backside is going to essentially get Bondo'd next with some good filler, then sanded smooth and painted flat black. The front I will continue scraping, then sanding, then it's gonna get finished with several coats of tung oil. Not going to lacquer it this time; the body of the camera is a lovely satin, and I want the sheen on the back to be similar. Still need to drill for the pins, but that's later. Back fits nicely though. Have some new card scrapers on order (cheapo Amazon garbagio, but good enough), and then the ground glass frame will get scraped and refinished. The metalwork is God-awful, but hopefully with buff easily enough. Need to get some glass from Ace for a new ground glass. Onward!


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Nice work, Scott! Wonder if it's an early B&J, or perhaps an entry-level line they had for a while.

Robert


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Dunno, Robert. I went down the google rabbit hole last night at about 2:00 am. Could not find anything that actually has the same capabilities and design. I'm trying to find some sort of forum somewhere to ask about it. It has more movements than any tailboard camera I've ever had, so I'm not sure it would be entry level. But I'm just not sure. I am very excited to start using it, though!


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Good work there.

Have you asked over on the Large Format Photography forum? Is there a possibility this is a "bitsa" that someone has previously modified for their own purpose?


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Yeah, someone over to apug suggested that. I don’t think so. I’ve seen (and made) enough modded view cameras to be able to spot them. The wood, metalwork, finish, everything, is entirely consistent throughout. There are a couple small, very amateurish repairs, but no way this is cobbled.


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Had a helpful discussion online with someone who has this camera. His is the labeled Watson Portrait, with front swings and other minor differences. However, he agreed that the style and design of the brightwork, the finish and materials, all suggest it's some variant of the Watson Portrait. He suggested that some of these manufacturers made special models for specific customers (i.e. - the government), and this may be one of them.

The back is finished and together again. Ground a glass for it yesterday, which turned out nicely. Went to cut it and my cutter is dull as Oprah. Glass shattered. Have a new cutter on order, will be here tomorrow. Need to go buy another piece of glass, grrr...


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Ha, yeah, a while back on somebody's recommendation (maybe LFPF) I bought some borosilicate glass for ground glasses. Turned out to be nearly impossible to cut cleanly, despite my cutter working fine on normal float glass, both before and after. Irritating for sure!


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Holy cow - where do you even buy borosilicate? I can't even find double thickness float around here.

New cutter arrived - need to run to Ace.


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Back is finished! Picked up a couple pieces of 5x7 glass at Ace ($4.99 each as opposed to $4.68 for a 10x12 from Lowe's, but Ace is closer). Decided to grab a couple as a precautionary thing. New cutter worked swimmingly. Clipped the corners (I hate clipped corners...) and ground the glass. Turned out really nicely. Fit like a glove.

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Finish on the mahogany (and cherry repairs) is multiple coats of tung oil and a bunch of finishing wax. Might need a few more coats of wax. Brass is way over-polished, but it's so therapeutic. Need to patch the bellows, make a couple lensboards (decision will be cheap-s**t plywood or three piece cherry), and get a few more holders on order. Hopefully shooting film in the next week or so.


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scott wrote:
Mon Jul 07, 2025 9:48 am
Holy cow - where do you even buy borosilicate? I can't even find double thickness float around here.
I looked it up: I bought it online from Mountain Glass in Asheville. In 2020! (man, time gets faster and faster.)

That looks great! Let's see some results...

Robert


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