Humor/Humour and Nelson

[Madrigalrose]

I miss CE and Ed the Ned, too.

Hard to believe it's been 10 years already since NFF was in its glory days.

[Santiago Montenegro]

As above. I also miss Jorn -even if he's alive and kicking.

[melek]

You know, after the move from photo.net, we had many great characters. Many of them have moved on, and along with them the interesting discussions that once filled the forums. A few have passed away.

Not that the people here aren't interesting, there just aren't enough of us. We need to change this from "assisted living" to a vibrant community again.

I'd like to see us get a lot more people in here, including some younger folks who are passionate about photography.

Forums are a tricky thing. Certain forums have a certain attitude toward them. At any time of the day, you can go to RangefinderForum.com and see a discussion that debates the various ASPH versions of a Leica lens.

DPReview, unless it has changed, is totally digital, which you would expect, filled with pixel peepers and needless discussions of minutae.

Photo.net continues, although I haven't spent any significant time on there in years, so I couldn't tell you the current state of things. I don't spend any time on Fred Miranda, Ken Rockwell, MF Forum or really any others. APUG still has a strong following - and is still always asking for money. That sort of turns me off.

Regardless, I won't be shutting down the forums, as the cost for operating them is minimal. And I won't be asking you for money.

[LarryD]

Pnet had some major personnel changes and most of the older Mods and Admins quit. It is a great archive. Flickr forms used to also be viverant and a few were like the Wild West until someone hired me as a new Sheriff. Then on the other hand Flickr most likely won't be around in 10 years with Yahoo in the state it is in.

I would be more than happy to help recruit a younger class of people but I fear most of them are too thin skinned and have been raised with the attitude that almost is good enough and everyone is a winner. Maybe I should get off my lawn chair and just yell at the kids to get off my lawn

[Santiago Montenegro]

Also, please remember that NFF had its ups and downs, and slumps in enthusiasm were not uncommon. As Mike says, there aren't many of us, and a couple of missing ones makes for a big dent.

The upside of this is we are basically a bunch of friends. I've been tempted to come and vent my personal life here, as I feel very close to all of you. And in fact, I will explain now why I have posted so little: I am too sad. My country became a literal hell hole in the last 2-3 years, and is still going downhill fast. Constantly worrying about my family's wellbeing does not entice photography all that much. At least not for me.

We still have good times. I still take pictures of them. Heck, I'll share some soon.

[LarryD]

Yes I wondered why you have not mentioned anything about that.

[Julio1fer]

Santiago, down here we more or less follow what is happening there, and I do regret most of it.

All the best to you and your family.

[PFMcFarland]

The best to you and your family in these trying times, Santiago. I read an article today about the government's inability to pay for all the money they have had printed. How long can Maduro last under those circumstances?

PF

[jamesmck]

What Julio and Phil said.

[Santiago Montenegro]

Thanks a lot, friends. Maduro's government seems to be on its way out- give hime 2-3 years max. But I think the damage they have done will endure what is left of my lifetime.