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Re: Zeiss Ikon Kolibri.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:45 am
by alexvaras
PFMcFarland wrote:I think you do pretty good with the English, Alex, for a Spaniard living and working in Russia. I myself never studied another language, so your being able to converse in three of them is quite an accomplishment. Though most of us here learned English as our first language, there are subtle differences that occasionally get injected which may arise from local ways of pronouncing the words, or certain sayings. People from New Jersey have a hard time understanding someone from the Deep South, such as folks from Appalachia (the mountain area I live) would have issues trying to talk to those from Northern California.
What Larry was telling you is that 127 film is used to make 4cm x 4cm images, thus the cameras are called 4x4. It has nothing to do with the focal length of the lens. It's the same as 120 film is used in 645, 6x6, 6x7, 6x9, 6x12, and 6x17 cameras. 6cm x 4.5cm, 6cm x 6cm, 6cm x 7cm image size, and so on.
Here is another Kodak confusion moment: 127 film is larger than 126, but smaller than 120, and 135 is the same size as 126 and 828. With a system like that, it's no wonder we sometimes don't understand each other.
PF
Thank you both for your compliments.
Now I understand why he said 40mm, I did know what 4x4 is but I would never myself name 6x6 as 60mm film. Now I will add this entrance to my LarryD-AlexEnglish dictionary
Thank you very much for the clarification. I appreciate it a lot.
As for the way of speaking and pronouncing the words, my opinion on this topic is influenced by the movies and tv shows I watch, so far I like the most southern accent due the intonation and the way of expressing (I just took a look of your map) of this triangle: North Dakota/Minnesota to Texas to South Carolina (but skipping Florida and great lakes regions XD). Of course Irish and Scottish I love how they talk, hard to get anything doh.
As for Spanish... Julio and Santiago are going to kill me but I would like to be Italian for how they understand life and how they live. I got used to be Basque-Spanish anyway and I'm happy.
Alex
Re: Zeiss Ikon Kolibri.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:23 am
by LarryD
Exactly.
Re: Zeiss Ikon Kolibri.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:41 pm
by PFMcFarland
Well, the Irish side of the family has been here long enough that the accent and lingo disappeared long ago, and as for the Sicilian side, grandpa didn't want his children speaking the language as he felt it would be better for them if they were fully assimilated into American culture. But I used to love hearing my grandparents talk to great-grandpa, or when they didn't want anyone else to know what they were saying between themselves. It was much later when I learned that most Sicilians don't speak straight Italian, but a dialect peculiar to whatever area of Sicily you came from, Catania in my grandparents case.
While I was in the Navy, I was stationed all up and down the east coast, so this Indiana Hoosier got to hear lots of different dialects. Of course, just as I'd get used to one locality, it was time to ship off to the next duty post.
PF
Re: Zeiss Ikon Kolibri.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:05 am
by Julio1fer
Julio and Santiago are going to kill me but I would like to be Italian for how they understand life and how they live
Not at all, Alex. Here we are half Italians, that is our well-kept secret.
Re: Zeiss Ikon Kolibri.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:16 am
by LarryD
OY VEY!
Re: Zeiss Ikon Kolibri.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:29 pm
by alexvaras
LarryD wrote:OY VEY!
I typed this in the translator and it says is Turkish, or it's a new entrance for my dictionary:)
Re: Zeiss Ikon Kolibri.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:41 am
by LarryD
Yiddish.
Re: Zeiss Ikon Kolibri.
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:29 am
by melek
Alex - let me see what I can find. I might have a roll or two of b/w that I can send you.
Regarding the Zeiss Ikon Kolibri, this came in two versions. You have the premium version with the Tessar and Compur lens. The lower-cost camera had a Klio shutter (I think) and a Novar lens.
The Tessar on this camera is quite sharp. After I restored my Kolibri, I found that it is a bit awkward to hold when taking photos.
Portraits are taken with the camera held horizontally and landscapes with the camera held vertically. It's opposite of what you would expect.
There also is a small post that screws into the shutter so that the camera can stand upright. There also was a very short cable release to help take photos. It all stored nicely in a fitted brown case, which had room for three filters. I don't have those although I believe they are standard 27mm thread (not 100% sure about the filter size - might be 25.5mm).
Sorry for the crappy mobile phone photos. It doesn't have a Zeiss lens.
Re: Zeiss Ikon Kolibri.
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:46 am
by melek
To process the film, you can use a GAF developing tank. It has a three-position film reel for 35mm, 127 or 126 and 120.
Re: Zeiss Ikon Kolibri.
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:28 pm
by alexvaras
Ohhh beatiful camera you have there Mike!! Yes the lens is goo enough and also yes the short cable release helps a lot.
Now I saw a Voigtlander Perkeo 3x4 and I want to get one for myself, same knob style as my Inos II. The Kolibri is from my friend and now that it's restored I want to publish the service and what I discovered about Compur shutters, every shutter something shows up